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AMERICAN VS FRED ASTAIRE
Posted by dancingqueen1
12/12/2012  7:11:00 AM
I would like to inquire if there is much of a difference between the American
and Fred Astaire. I don't mind personally I think he was wonderful but for a
comp they are not correct?
Re: AMERICAN VS FRED ASTAIRE
Posted by belleofyourball
12/12/2012  9:50:00 AM
When I danced there...many years ago they were not using a sanctioned syllabus that would allow you to take the moves to an independent comp I know when I left they were talking about changing to more traditional styles but I'm not sure how traditional and I don't believe that they did align themselves to a regular syllabus.

You can do the inhouse comps with success and I know that I have seen ladies from Fred Astaire at big comps like Ohio Star and Emerald and Millenium...but not many and most of their professional partners did not learn to dance at Fred in the first place. Fred Astaire has any number of dancers from other countries that they import over to increase their talent pool, which isn't a bad thing. So chances are you aren't going to have a real skilled dancer unless they speak with an accent....probably European in origin. Secondarily you are going to have to pay so much money to get to that level that it might blow your mind....

So if you want to check if your instructor knows a series of syllabus steps...go to the web page of a comp you want to attend. Find the set of legal steps for your style and level. Print them out...take them to your instructor and ask them to dance them for you and explain them to you....right then. Not tomorrow, not on your next lesson, not after he or she asks the boss. They should make no excuses...dance them, understand them on at least 90% of the steps. If they don't know them right then...they can't really teach them to you in a way that will allow you to succeed at a real competition.
Re: AMERICAN VS FRED ASTAIRE
Posted by waynelee
12/12/2012  5:43:00 PM
While I am not really competent to tend to any differences between Fred Astaire studios and other teaching studios, I do know that Fred Astaire is a member organization of the National Dance Council and participates in the syllabus committee. In the past several years, the Fred Astaire dance syllabuses have been completely revised and rewritten, probably bringing them into line with the NDC standards.

I have been taking lessons at FADS for over 5 years and I know that there are many, many students and teachers that participate in competitions outside of the FADS system including Black Pool. In fact one of the pro couples from Florida won last years cabaret division at Black Pool and were featured on "So You Think You Can Dance" closing episode. Our "traveling" coaches feature teachers that are former world champions. For example, my smooth coach is Michael Meade, 5 times consecutive world champion in smooth.

I think that if you examine the teaching methods and syllabuses used, you will find only very slight, if any, differences between FADS and the NDC standards.
Re: AMERICAN VS FRED ASTAIRE
Posted by 2rightfeet
12/13/2012  9:42:00 AM
Michael Meade has a very impressive history and you are very fortunate to have him for a coach. I have been to his website and see no reference to FADS anyplace; are you saying he is a FADS coach?

Another question, are you saying your FADS promotes competition out side of the closed FAD Comps? We sure don't see that in the Midwest, as a matter of fact, I think an instructor would be fired if he or she danced a comp with a student out side of FADS. To me, they seem very closed and protective of their revenue stream, I mean students.

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